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 Since the 1990s, I have been doing everything I can to understand Messianics (whether Christian or Muslim or Hebrew) of all kinds and researching how they can live as Hagarim (Noahites). Messianic Noahites are usually from Christian (even those who once thought they were Judaic) as well as from Islamic backgrounds although what distinguishes Messianic Noahites from Islamists is a strong belief in the Jewish Messiah (Ruah Elo*im) as HaShem's attribute of Justice (as per Rabbeinu Bahya) rather than as a man as Islamists tend to believe.
-Therefore it is up to us Jews to explain The Messianic Soul (Ruah Elo*im) to them. If they want to call it Yeshua MiNatzrat (Jesus of Nazareth) then that causes no harm to Judaism *as long as* they reject the other Jesus ([[Yeshu Notzri]]) and understand Ruah Elo*im's relation to HaShem correctly in Judaic terms. Ruah Elo*im has appeared to the People of HaShem many times throughout history according to the Scriptures and Jewish tradition. Not all of those visits have been recorded. So if Messianics want to believe that one of the times Ruah Elo*im visited was under the guise of an early 1st century Rabbi from Nazareth in Galilee promoting Mishnah then that might be a "crazy" belief but it does no damage to Judaism. Islamists have a similarly "crazy" belief in an Arabian prophet who did not behave like a prophet. But if Islamists can be Noahites despite "crazy" beliefs then Messianics can be too. The important thing is that Messianic Noahites do their utmost to keep the 7 Laws of Noah and believe in the revelation of Judaism at Mount Sinai. Messianics have a thirst to understand the Judaic perspective on things which needs to be quenched. They need to learn about the Spirit of the Messiah (Ruah Elo*im) from the Judaic perspective. The only problem with Messianics of all kinds is their tendency to cherry-pick whatever serves their own whims rather than seek the truth.
+Therefore it is up to us Jews to explain The Messianic Soul (Ruah Elo*im) to them. If they want to call it Yeshua MiNatzrat (Jesus of Nazareth) then that causes no harm to Judaism *as long as* they reject the other Jesus ([[Yeshu Notzri]]) and understand Ruah Elo*im's relation to HaShem correctly in Judaic terms. Ruah Elo*im has appeared to the People of HaShem many times throughout history according to the Scriptures and Jewish tradition. Not all of those visits have been recorded. So if Messianics want to believe that one of the times Ruah Elo*im visited was under the guise of an early 1st century Rabbi from Nazareth in Galilee promoting Mishnah then that might be a "crazy" belief but it does no damage to Judaism. Islamists have a similarly "crazy" belief in an Arabian prophet who did not behave like a prophet. But if Islamists can be Noahites despite "crazy" beliefs then Messianics can be too. The important thing is that Messianic Noahites do their utmost to keep the 7 Laws of Noah and believe in the revelation of Judaism at Mount Sinai. Messianics have a thirst to understand the Judaic perspective on things which needs to be quenched. They need to learn about the Spirit of the Messiah (Ruah Elo*im) from the Judaic perspective. The only problem with Messianics of all kinds is their tendency to cherry-pick whatever serves their own whims rather than submit to the truth.
 All of the most ancient traditions held by Messianics can be traced back to Mishnaic Judaism. But Edom can not be required to do as Jews do, but only need practice the Noahism we preach. Furthermore they are quite erudite these days and it is necessary to condemn non-Pharisee interpretations of Niddah 45a without Pirkei Avot 5 publicly for them because it is widely known and *not* speaking out against them is doing great harm to the reputation of the Jewish community. It should be presented to them as nothing but flawed men's erroneous interpretation of the Mishnah.

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 Since the 1990s, I have been doing everything I can to understand Messianics (whether Christian or Muslim or Hebrew) of all kinds and researching how they can live as Hagarim (Noahites). Messianic Noahites are usually from Christian (even those who once thought they were Judaic) as well as from Islamic backgrounds although what distinguishes Messianic Noahites from Islamists is a strong belief in the Jewish Messiah (Ruah Elo*im) as HaShem's attribute of Justice (as per Rabbeinu Bahya) rather than as a man as Islamists tend to believe.
-Therefore it is up to us Jews to explain The Messianic Soul (Ruah Elo*im) to them. If they want to call it Yeshua MiNatzrat (Jesus of Nazareth) then that causes no harm to Judaism *as long as* they reject the other Jesus ([[Yeshu Notzri]]) and understand Ruah Elo*im's relation to HaShem correctly in Judaic terms. Ruah Elo*im has appeared to the People of HaShem many times throughout history according to the Scriptures and Jewish tradition. Not all of those visits have been recorded. So if Messianics want to believe that one of the times Ruah Elo*im visited was under the guise of an early 1st century Rabbi from Nazareth in Galilee promoting Mishnah then that might be a crazy belief but it does no damage to Judaism. Islamists have a similarly crazy belief in an Arabian prophet who did not behave like a prophet. But if Islamists can be Noahites despite crazy beliefs then Messianics can be too. The important thing is that Messianic Noahites do their utmost to keep the 7 Laws of Noah and believe in the revelation of Judaism at Mount Sinai. Messianics have a thirst to understand the Judaic perspective on things which needs to be quenched. They need to learn about the Spirit of the Messiah (Ruah Elo*im) from the Judaic perspective.
+Therefore it is up to us Jews to explain The Messianic Soul (Ruah Elo*im) to them. If they want to call it Yeshua MiNatzrat (Jesus of Nazareth) then that causes no harm to Judaism *as long as* they reject the other Jesus ([[Yeshu Notzri]]) and understand Ruah Elo*im's relation to HaShem correctly in Judaic terms. Ruah Elo*im has appeared to the People of HaShem many times throughout history according to the Scriptures and Jewish tradition. Not all of those visits have been recorded. So if Messianics want to believe that one of the times Ruah Elo*im visited was under the guise of an early 1st century Rabbi from Nazareth in Galilee promoting Mishnah then that might be a "crazy" belief but it does no damage to Judaism. Islamists have a similarly "crazy" belief in an Arabian prophet who did not behave like a prophet. But if Islamists can be Noahites despite "crazy" beliefs then Messianics can be too. The important thing is that Messianic Noahites do their utmost to keep the 7 Laws of Noah and believe in the revelation of Judaism at Mount Sinai. Messianics have a thirst to understand the Judaic perspective on things which needs to be quenched. They need to learn about the Spirit of the Messiah (Ruah Elo*im) from the Judaic perspective. The only problem with Messianics of all kinds is their tendency to cherry-pick whatever serves their own whims rather than seek the truth.
 All of the most ancient traditions held by Messianics can be traced back to Mishnaic Judaism. But Edom can not be required to do as Jews do, but only need practice the Noahism we preach. Furthermore they are quite erudite these days and it is necessary to condemn non-Pharisee interpretations of Niddah 45a without Pirkei Avot 5 publicly for them because it is widely known and *not* speaking out against them is doing great harm to the reputation of the Jewish community. It should be presented to them as nothing but flawed men's erroneous interpretation of the Mishnah.

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 ===Background===
-Although of Ethnic-Hebrew heritage myself, I had a very slow introduction to Orthodox Judaism following an Antisemitic attack during Government Sponsored Postgraduate Research Scholarship at the Jagiellonian University in Krakow in 2000 following which I moved to Korea. I began to attend Synagogue on the US Army Base in Yongsan (Seoul, South Korea) under [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UmLurG7YeM U.S.A.F. Chaplain Lieutenant Colonel Rav Brett Oxman], sporadically from 2001 until I became a regular in early 2003. I was soon hooked on Romaniote Jewish Minhag which I began to try and communicate to Messianists through the concept of [[Petterine Noahism]]. I first came into contact with [https://www.facebook.com/282442751904095/posts/1530783400403351/ the Sanhedrin project] through [https://www.google.com/search?q=Chaim+richman&client=avast-a-1&source=hp&ei=KbQQZPDXHLuBhbIPxpCg-AE&iflsig=AK50M_UAAAAAZBDCOf0imDO7SS7YdM5kwXNTBZ-aFhgq&ved=0ahUKEwiwkLeI_tv9AhW7QEEAHUYICB8Q4dUDCAo&uact=5&oq=Chaim+richman&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBQguEIAEMgYIABAWEB4yBggAEBYQHjIGCAAQFhAeMgYIABAWEB4yBggAEBYQHjIFCAAQhgM6DgguEIAEELEDEMcBENEDOggIABCABBCxAzoICAAQsQMQgwE6CwgAEIAEELEDEIMBOg4ILhCABBCxAxCDARDUAjoLCC4QgAQQsQMQgwE6DgguELEDEIMBEMcBENEDOggILhCxAxCDAToICC4QgAQQ1AI6CAguEIAEELEDOgsILhCxAxCDARDUAjoICC4QsQMQgAQ6CwguEIAEEMcBEK8BOgUIABCABDoECAAQAzoKCAAQgAQQsQMQCjoQCC4QgAQQsQMQxwEQ0QMQCjoNCC4QgAQQxwEQrwEQCjoHCAAQgAQQClAAWNgQYKASaABwAHgAgAGhA4gBvg6SAQc0LjguNC0xmAEAoAEB&sclient=gws-wiz Chaim Richman] in 2004 and by 2006 I was working on this GodFearers project as a Shabbati Hebrew. The current Nasi of the Sanhedrin, Rav Meir Hakak HaLevi, became my Sandak in August 2008 after I had completed my first year at a Crimean Shabbati seminary. By Summer 2010 I had been awarded a full scholarship to [https://www.woolf.cam.ac.uk/ Cambridge University's Woolf Institute] by Dr Dawud Bone for the Study of Abrahamic Faiths and had completed my Teshuva to Orthodox Judaism. I made Aliyah in Summer 2015 and the Bei Abedan project for Messianic Noahites in Summer 2020 with the support of the then Sanhedrin Nasi [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoel_Schwartz Rav Yoel Schwartz].
+Although of Ethnic-Hebrew heritage myself, I had a very slow introduction to Orthodox Judaism following an Antisemitic attack during Government Sponsored Postgraduate Research Scholarship at the Jagiellonian University in Krakow in 2000 following which I moved to Korea. I began to attend Synagogue on the US Army Base in Yongsan (Seoul, South Korea) under [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UmLurG7YeM U.S.A.F. Chaplain Lieutenant Colonel Rav Brett Oxman], sporadically from 2001 until I became a regular in early 2003. I was soon hooked on Romaniote Jewish Minhag which I began to try and communicate to Messianists through the concept of [[Petterine Noahism]]. I first came into contact with [https://www.facebook.com/282442751904095/posts/1530783400403351/ the Sanhedrin project] through [https://www.google.com/search?q=Chaim+richman&client=avast-a-1&source=hp&ei=KbQQZPDXHLuBhbIPxpCg-AE&iflsig=AK50M_UAAAAAZBDCOf0imDO7SS7YdM5kwXNTBZ-aFhgq&ved=0ahUKEwiwkLeI_tv9AhW7QEEAHUYICB8Q4dUDCAo&uact=5&oq=Chaim+richman&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBQguEIAEMgYIABAWEB4yBggAEBYQHjIGCAAQFhAeMgYIABAWEB4yBggAEBYQHjIFCAAQhgM6DgguEIAEELEDEMcBENEDOggIABCABBCxAzoICAAQsQMQgwE6CwgAEIAEELEDEIMBOg4ILhCABBCxAxCDARDUAjoLCC4QgAQQsQMQgwE6DgguELEDEIMBEMcBENEDOggILhCxAxCDAToICC4QgAQQ1AI6CAguEIAEELEDOgsILhCxAxCDARDUAjoICC4QsQMQgAQ6CwguEIAEEMcBEK8BOgUIABCABDoECAAQAzoKCAAQgAQQsQMQCjoQCC4QgAQQsQMQxwEQ0QMQCjoNCC4QgAQQxwEQrwEQCjoHCAAQgAQQClAAWNgQYKASaABwAHgAgAGhA4gBvg6SAQc0LjguNC0xmAEAoAEB&sclient=gws-wiz Chaim Richman] in 2004 and by 2006 I was working on this GodFearers project as a Shabbati Hebrew. The current Nasi of the Sanhedrin, Rav Meir Hakak HaLevi, became my Sandak in August 2008 after I had completed my first year at a Crimean Shabbati seminary. By Summer 2010 I had been awarded a full scholarship to [https://www.woolf.cam.ac.uk/ Cambridge University's Woolf Institute] by Dr Dawud Bone for the Study of Abrahamic Faiths and made a giyur lechumra to Pharisee Judaism. I made Aliyah in Summer 2015 and started the Bei Abedan project for Messianic Noahites with the support of the Sanhedrin Nasi [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoel_Schwartz Rav Yoel Schwartz].
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 ===Background===
-Although of Ethnic-Hebrew heritage myself, I had a very slow introduction to Orthodox Judaism following an Antisemitic attack during Government Sponsored Postgraduate Research Scholarship at the Jagiellonian University in Krakow in 2000 following which I moved to Korea. I began to attend Synagogue on the US Army Base in Yongsan (Seoul, South Korea) under [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UmLurG7YeM U.S.A.F. Chaplain Lieutenant Colonel Rav Brett Oxman], sporadically from 2001 until I became a regular in early 2003. I was soon hooked on Romaniote Jewish Minhag which I began to try and communicate to Messianists through the concept of [[Petterine Noahism]]. I first came into contact with [https://www.facebook.com/282442751904095/posts/1530783400403351/ the Sanhedrin project] through [https://www.google.com/search?q=Chaim+richman&client=avast-a-1&source=hp&ei=KbQQZPDXHLuBhbIPxpCg-AE&iflsig=AK50M_UAAAAAZBDCOf0imDO7SS7YdM5kwXNTBZ-aFhgq&ved=0ahUKEwiwkLeI_tv9AhW7QEEAHUYICB8Q4dUDCAo&uact=5&oq=Chaim+richman&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBQguEIAEMgYIABAWEB4yBggAEBYQHjIGCAAQFhAeMgYIABAWEB4yBggAEBYQHjIFCAAQhgM6DgguEIAEELEDEMcBENEDOggIABCABBCxAzoICAAQsQMQgwE6CwgAEIAEELEDEIMBOg4ILhCABBCxAxCDARDUAjoLCC4QgAQQsQMQgwE6DgguELEDEIMBEMcBENEDOggILhCxAxCDAToICC4QgAQQ1AI6CAguEIAEELEDOgsILhCxAxCDARDUAjoICC4QsQMQgAQ6CwguEIAEEMcBEK8BOgUIABCABDoECAAQAzoKCAAQgAQQsQMQCjoQCC4QgAQQsQMQxwEQ0QMQCjoNCC4QgAQQxwEQrwEQCjoHCAAQgAQQClAAWNgQYKASaABwAHgAgAGhA4gBvg6SAQc0LjguNC0xmAEAoAEB&sclient=gws-wiz Chaim Richman] in 2004 and by 2006 I was working on this GodFearers project as a Shabbati Jew. The current Nasi of the Sanhedrin, Rav Meir Hakak HaLevi, became my Sandak in August 2008 after I had completed my first year at a Crimean Shabbati seminary. By Summer 2010 I had been awarded a full scholarship to [https://www.woolf.cam.ac.uk/ Cambridge University's Woolf Institute] by Dr Dawud Bone for the Study of Abrahamic Faiths and had completed my Teshuva to Orthodox Judaism. I made Aliyah in Summer 2015 and the Bei Abedan project for Messianic Noahites in Summer 2020 with the support of the then Sanhedrin Nasi [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoel_Schwartz Rav Yoel Schwartz].
+Although of Ethnic-Hebrew heritage myself, I had a very slow introduction to Orthodox Judaism following an Antisemitic attack during Government Sponsored Postgraduate Research Scholarship at the Jagiellonian University in Krakow in 2000 following which I moved to Korea. I began to attend Synagogue on the US Army Base in Yongsan (Seoul, South Korea) under [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UmLurG7YeM U.S.A.F. Chaplain Lieutenant Colonel Rav Brett Oxman], sporadically from 2001 until I became a regular in early 2003. I was soon hooked on Romaniote Jewish Minhag which I began to try and communicate to Messianists through the concept of [[Petterine Noahism]]. I first came into contact with [https://www.facebook.com/282442751904095/posts/1530783400403351/ the Sanhedrin project] through [https://www.google.com/search?q=Chaim+richman&client=avast-a-1&source=hp&ei=KbQQZPDXHLuBhbIPxpCg-AE&iflsig=AK50M_UAAAAAZBDCOf0imDO7SS7YdM5kwXNTBZ-aFhgq&ved=0ahUKEwiwkLeI_tv9AhW7QEEAHUYICB8Q4dUDCAo&uact=5&oq=Chaim+richman&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBQguEIAEMgYIABAWEB4yBggAEBYQHjIGCAAQFhAeMgYIABAWEB4yBggAEBYQHjIFCAAQhgM6DgguEIAEELEDEMcBENEDOggIABCABBCxAzoICAAQsQMQgwE6CwgAEIAEELEDEIMBOg4ILhCABBCxAxCDARDUAjoLCC4QgAQQsQMQgwE6DgguELEDEIMBEMcBENEDOggILhCxAxCDAToICC4QgAQQ1AI6CAguEIAEELEDOgsILhCxAxCDARDUAjoICC4QsQMQgAQ6CwguEIAEEMcBEK8BOgUIABCABDoECAAQAzoKCAAQgAQQsQMQCjoQCC4QgAQQsQMQxwEQ0QMQCjoNCC4QgAQQxwEQrwEQCjoHCAAQgAQQClAAWNgQYKASaABwAHgAgAGhA4gBvg6SAQc0LjguNC0xmAEAoAEB&sclient=gws-wiz Chaim Richman] in 2004 and by 2006 I was working on this GodFearers project as a Shabbati Hebrew. The current Nasi of the Sanhedrin, Rav Meir Hakak HaLevi, became my Sandak in August 2008 after I had completed my first year at a Crimean Shabbati seminary. By Summer 2010 I had been awarded a full scholarship to [https://www.woolf.cam.ac.uk/ Cambridge University's Woolf Institute] by Dr Dawud Bone for the Study of Abrahamic Faiths and had completed my Teshuva to Orthodox Judaism. I made Aliyah in Summer 2015 and the Bei Abedan project for Messianic Noahites in Summer 2020 with the support of the then Sanhedrin Nasi [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoel_Schwartz Rav Yoel Schwartz].
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-Shalom! I'm Dr. Yosi Khœn and I serve HaShem as an online Chaplain/Influencer for [[Messianic Noahites]] and I have about 2050 followers around the world through a Youtube channel on the Noachite Judaism for Messianic Noachites.
+Shalom! I'm Dr. Yosi Khœn and I serve HaShem as an online Chaplain/Influencer for [[Messianic Noahites]] and I have about 2200 followers around the world through a Youtube channel on the Noachite Judaism for Messianic Noachites.
 ===Background===

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