Notzrim - Revision history

פטר חמור at 10:10, 10 April 2023

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פטר חמור: /* 8thC.BC */

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‎8thC.BC

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פטר חמור: /* Nazerini vs Nazareni */

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‎Nazerini vs Nazareni

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 The synthesis of a variety of Judaic sources demonstrates that '''Notzrim''' (נוצרים) were polygamous royalist Israelite Minim who trampled the Torah-for-Qehal while venerating the [[Baetylus]] on Sundays. Their politics caused much strife in Israel for 30 years after their ring-leader Ben Stada was executed in 56CE for spreading Gnosticism among his Karaite supporters in Beit Shammai.
-Although Notzrim came out of the Royalists who followed the Sions ([[Netzarim]]) of the House of David, in their purest form they still survive only as Mandaeans (Gnostics). The singular form is '''Notzri'''. In Aramaic they call themselves '''Nāṣorāyi'''. They divide into two sects, the original Antimomians (who are not vegetarians) and their  Noahized "Nomians" (who are vegetarians) who are called Nasara in Arabic and who each have their own Imam. Noahized Gnostics are considered to be the closest in affection to genuine Messianic Noahides who are nevertheless warned against establishing any alliance with them.
+Although Notzrim came out of the Royalists who followed the Sions ([[Netzarim]]) of the House of David, in their purest form they still survive only as Mandaeans (Gnostics). The singular form is '''Notzri'''. In Aramaic they call themselves '''Nāṣorāyi'''. They divide into two sects, the original Antimomians (who are not vegetarians) and their  Noahized "Nomians" (who are vegetarians) who are called Nasara in Arabic and who each have their own Imam. Noahized Gnostics are considered to be the closest in affection to genuine [[Messianic Noahides]] who are nevertheless warned against establishing any alliance with them.
 According to the Teliya, in 86CE the Sanhedrin and Herod Agrippa II decided that it would be best if the Notzrim would fall under [[Apollyon]] so ordered [[Hakham Elijah]] ([[Rav Shimeon HaKalpus]]) to fulfil Devarim 32:21 by organising the [[Ishmaelim]] in such a way as to make the Notzrim jealous and thereby attract them away from Israel's Qehal to be subsumed into Noahide Judaism instead of allowing them to  invoke HaShem's wrath by letting them continue to identify as Jews. The good intention of the Jews has been much maligned by the enemies of traditional Judaism.

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 The synthesis of a variety of Judaic sources demonstrates that '''Notzrim''' (נוצרים) were polygamous royalist Israelite Minim who trampled the Torah-for-Qehal while venerating the [[Baetylus]] on Sundays. Their politics caused much strife in Israel for 30 years after their ring-leader Ben Stada was executed in 56CE for spreading Gnosticism among his Karaite supporters in Beit Shammai.
-Although Notzrim came out of the Royalists who followed the Sions ([[Netzarim]]) of the House of David, in their purest form they still survive only as Mandaeans (Gnostics). The singular form is '''Notzri'''. In Aramaic they call themselves '''Nāṣorāyi'''. They divide into two sects, the original Antimomians (who are not vegetarians) and their  Noahized "Nomians" (who are vegetarians) who are called Nasara in Arabic. Noahized Gnostics are considered to be the closest in affection to genuine Messianic Noahides who are nevertheless warned against establishing any alliance with them.
+Although Notzrim came out of the Royalists who followed the Sions ([[Netzarim]]) of the House of David, in their purest form they still survive only as Mandaeans (Gnostics). The singular form is '''Notzri'''. In Aramaic they call themselves '''Nāṣorāyi'''. They divide into two sects, the original Antimomians (who are not vegetarians) and their  Noahized "Nomians" (who are vegetarians) who are called Nasara in Arabic and who each have their own Imam. Noahized Gnostics are considered to be the closest in affection to genuine Messianic Noahides who are nevertheless warned against establishing any alliance with them.
 According to the Teliya, in 86CE the Sanhedrin and Herod Agrippa II decided that it would be best if the Notzrim would fall under [[Apollyon]] so ordered [[Hakham Elijah]] ([[Rav Shimeon HaKalpus]]) to fulfil Devarim 32:21 by organising the [[Ishmaelim]] in such a way as to make the Notzrim jealous and thereby attract them away from Israel's Qehal to be subsumed into Noahide Judaism instead of allowing them to  invoke HaShem's wrath by letting them continue to identify as Jews. The good intention of the Jews has been much maligned by the enemies of traditional Judaism.

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 The synthesis of a variety of Judaic sources demonstrates that '''Notzrim''' (נוצרים) were polygamous royalist Israelite Minim who trampled the Torah-for-Qehal while venerating the [[Baetylus]] on Sundays. Their politics caused much strife in Israel for 30 years after their ring-leader Ben Stada was executed in 56CE for spreading Gnosticism among his Karaite supporters in Beit Shammai.
-Although Notzrim came out of the Royalists who followed the Sions ([[Netzarim]]) of the House of David, in their purest form they still survive only as Mandaeans (Gnostics). The singular form is '''Notzri'''. In Aramaic they call themselves '''Nāṣorāyi'''. They divide into two sects, the original Antimomians (who are not vegetarians) and their  Noahized "Nomians" (who are vegetarians) who are called Nasara in Arabic. Noahized Gnostics are considered to be the closest in affection to genuine Messianic Noahides.
+Although Notzrim came out of the Royalists who followed the Sions ([[Netzarim]]) of the House of David, in their purest form they still survive only as Mandaeans (Gnostics). The singular form is '''Notzri'''. In Aramaic they call themselves '''Nāṣorāyi'''. They divide into two sects, the original Antimomians (who are not vegetarians) and their  Noahized "Nomians" (who are vegetarians) who are called Nasara in Arabic. Noahized Gnostics are considered to be the closest in affection to genuine Messianic Noahides who are nevertheless warned against establishing any alliance with them.
 According to the Teliya, in 86CE the Sanhedrin and Herod Agrippa II decided that it would be best if the Notzrim would fall under [[Apollyon]] so ordered [[Hakham Elijah]] ([[Rav Shimeon HaKalpus]]) to fulfil Devarim 32:21 by organising the [[Ishmaelim]] in such a way as to make the Notzrim jealous and thereby attract them away from Israel's Qehal to be subsumed into Noahide Judaism instead of allowing them to  invoke HaShem's wrath by letting them continue to identify as Jews. The good intention of the Jews has been much maligned by the enemies of traditional Judaism.

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 The synthesis of a variety of Judaic sources demonstrates that '''Notzrim''' (נוצרים) were polygamous royalist Israelite Minim who trampled the Torah-for-Qehal while venerating the [[Baetylus]] on Sundays. Their politics caused much strife in Israel for 30 years after their ring-leader Ben Stada was executed in 56CE for spreading Gnosticism among his Karaite supporters in Beit Shammai.
-Although Notzrim came out of the Royalists who followed the Sions ([[Netzarim]]) of the House of David, in their purest form they still survive only as Mandaeans (Gnostics). The singular form is '''Notzri'''. In Aramaic they call themselves '''Nāṣorāyi'''. They divide into two sects, the original Antimomians (who are not vegetarians) and their  Noahized "Nomians" (who are vegetarians) who are called Nasara in Arabic.
+Although Notzrim came out of the Royalists who followed the Sions ([[Netzarim]]) of the House of David, in their purest form they still survive only as Mandaeans (Gnostics). The singular form is '''Notzri'''. In Aramaic they call themselves '''Nāṣorāyi'''. They divide into two sects, the original Antimomians (who are not vegetarians) and their  Noahized "Nomians" (who are vegetarians) who are called Nasara in Arabic. Noahized Gnostics are considered to be the closest in affection to genuine Messianic Noahides.
 According to the Teliya, in 86CE the Sanhedrin and Herod Agrippa II decided that it would be best if the Notzrim would fall under [[Apollyon]] so ordered [[Hakham Elijah]] ([[Rav Shimeon HaKalpus]]) to fulfil Devarim 32:21 by organising the [[Ishmaelim]] in such a way as to make the Notzrim jealous and thereby attract them away from Israel's Qehal to be subsumed into Noahide Judaism instead of allowing them to  invoke HaShem's wrath by letting them continue to identify as Jews. The good intention of the Jews has been much maligned by the enemies of traditional Judaism.

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 The synthesis of a variety of Judaic sources demonstrates that '''Notzrim''' (נוצרים) were polygamous royalist Israelite Minim who trampled the Torah-for-Qehal while venerating the [[Baetylus]] on Sundays. Their politics caused much strife in Israel for 30 years after their ring-leader Ben Stada was executed in 56CE for spreading Gnosticism among his Karaite supporters in Beit Shammai.
-Although Notzrim came out of the Royalists who followed the Sions ([[Netzarim]]) of the House of David, in their purest form they still survive only as Mandaeans (Gnostics). The singular form is '''Notzri'''. In Aramaic they call themselves '''Nāṣorāyi'''. They divide into two sects, Nomians (who are vegetarians) and Antimomians (who are not vegetarians), Their Nomian sect are called Nasara in Arabic.
+Although Notzrim came out of the Royalists who followed the Sions ([[Netzarim]]) of the House of David, in their purest form they still survive only as Mandaeans (Gnostics). The singular form is '''Notzri'''. In Aramaic they call themselves '''Nāṣorāyi'''. They divide into two sects, the original Antimomians (who are not vegetarians) and their  Noahized "Nomians" (who are vegetarians) who are called Nasara in Arabic.
 According to the Teliya, in 86CE the Sanhedrin and Herod Agrippa II decided that it would be best if the Notzrim would fall under [[Apollyon]] so ordered [[Hakham Elijah]] ([[Rav Shimeon HaKalpus]]) to fulfil Devarim 32:21 by organising the [[Ishmaelim]] in such a way as to make the Notzrim jealous and thereby attract them away from Israel's Qehal to be subsumed into Noahide Judaism instead of allowing them to  invoke HaShem's wrath by letting them continue to identify as Jews. The good intention of the Jews has been much maligned by the enemies of traditional Judaism.

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 '''Notzrim''' are first named concerning the raid of Samaria during the reign of King Hoshea (759-714BC) in 2 Kings 17:9 being:
 :בני ישראל דברים אשר לא כן על י**ה א**יהם
-(Sons of Israel who did things secretly which were not right against the L**D G-d).
+:Sons of Israel who did things secretly which were not right against the L*RD G*d.
+The tower of these warlocks is also mentioned in 2 Kings 18.
 This is probably the earliest (albeit oblique) reference to the now very well known but so-called "Great Secret" of Gnosticism whereby Gnostics exchange Israel's liberator for the Serpent of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.

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 Their tower is also mentioned in 2 Kings 18.
-This is probably the earliest oblique reference to the now very well known but so-called "Great Secret" of Gnosticism whereby Gnostics exchange Israel's liberator for the Serpent of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.
+This is probably the earliest (albeit oblique) reference to the now very well known but so-called "Great Secret" of Gnosticism whereby Gnostics exchange Israel's liberator for the Serpent of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.
 ==7thC.BC==

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	Their tower is also mentioned in 2 Kings 18.		Their tower is also mentioned in 2 Kings 18.
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		+	This is probably the earliest oblique reference to the now very well known but so-called "Great Secret" of Gnosticism whereby Gnostics exchange Israel's liberator for the Serpent of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.

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 Not much is known about the Notzrim before the 1st century BCE when King Yanneus Alexander is also mentioned in connection with the spread of Notzrut under the doctrine of two students of Antigonus of Sokko called Sadduc and Boethus who founded the sect of the Sadducees and Boethusians to which Alexander forcibly converted the remnant of Edom. At that time, Judah ben Tabbai is hinted at as a student of Joshua ben Perachia who went to Egypt and brought back students who began to worship the Baetylus.
-==Nazerini vs Nazareni==
+===Nazerini vs Nazareni===
 [[Pliny the Elder]] mentioned a people called the "'''Nazerini'''" in his ''[[Natural History (Pliny)|Historia Naturalis]]'' (Book V,22).<ref>Plinii naturalis historia: Libri I-VII ed. Francesco Della Corte - 1984 "Nunc interiora dicantur. Coele habet Apameam Marsya amne divisam a Nazerinorum tetrarchia, Bambycen quae alio nomine ... In Cele si trova Apamea, divisa dalla tetrarchia dei Nazerini dal fiume Marsia, Bambice, che con altro nome..."</ref> He indicates<ref>Pliny the Elder, ''Natural Histories'' Book V, recopying reports drafted by Marcus Agrippa on the orders of Emperor Octavian Augustus Caesar.</ref> that they lived not far from Apamea, in Syria in a city called Bambyx, Hierapolis or Mabog.
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 :''Pliny's Nazerini - While treating the name of the sect, we may deal here with a short notice by Pliny the Elder which has caused some confusion among scholars. .... Can Pliny's Nazerini be early Christians? The answer depends very much on the identification of his sources, and on this basis the answer must be an unequivocal No. It is generally acknowledged that Pliny drew heavily on official records and most likely on those drawn up for Augustus by Marcus Agrippa (d. 12 BC).[31] Jones has shown that this survey was accomplished between 30 and 20 BC [32] Any connection between the Nazerini and the Nazareni must, therefore, be ruled out, and we must not attempt to line this up with Epiphanius' Nazoraioi. [33]"
 Epiphanius called them '''Nasaraeans''' in Panarion 1:18.
 ==Talmud==

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 Notzrim frequently claim identification with the Scions (Netzarim) of the House of Jesse and the watchmen of Mount Ephraim in Samaria mentioned in Jeremiah 31:16 during the reign of King Josiah (648-609BC).
-==c.100BC==
+==1stC.BC==
 Not much is known about the Notzrim before the 1st century BCE when King Yanneus Alexander is also mentioned in connection with the spread of Notzrut under the doctrine of two students of Antigonus of Sokko called Sadduc and Boethus who founded the sect of the Sadducees and Boethusians to which Alexander forcibly converted the remnant of Edom. At that time, Judah ben Tabbai is hinted at as a student of Joshua ben Perachia who went to Egypt and brought back students who began to worship the Baetylus.