Noahite Christian Gnostic - Revision history

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פטר חמור: Ovadyah moved page Noahite Mithraism to Noahite Christian Gnostic without leaving a redirect

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Ovadyah moved page Noahite Mithraism to Noahite Christian Gnostic without leaving a redirect

פטר חמור at 19:26, 27 November 2020

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פטר חמור at 18:05, 26 November 2020

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פטר חמור at 17:57, 26 November 2020

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פטר חמור: /* 650s */

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‎650s

פטר חמור: /* 680 */

2020-11-26T17:45:28Z

‎680

פטר חמור at 17:43, 26 November 2020

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פטר חמור at 17:15, 26 November 2020

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	The Gnostic Noahites felt very hurt that the reasoning behind these doctrines were turned inside out by the Caliphs and not very wowed by Uthman's Quran which did not do justice to Gnostic Noahite beliefs. Hence many became Maronites while others became Pavlikeni.		The Gnostic Noahites felt very hurt that the reasoning behind these doctrines were turned inside out by the Caliphs and not very wowed by Uthman's Quran which did not do justice to Gnostic Noahite beliefs. Hence many became Maronites while others became Pavlikeni.
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−	~~=634=~~
−	~~Thomas the Presbyter said that followers of MHMT attacked Romans near Gaza at this time. We assume this was part of the on-going Byzantine-Persian wars over the Holy Land.~~
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−	~~=651=~~
−	~~The first Mithraic "bismillah" coins appear.~~
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−	~~=650s=~~
−	The earliest Quranic Materials begin to appear. Analysis of the Quranic materials indicate that they were all written by one person. The religious view of that person can be identified from the materials alone without reference to the interpretations provided by Islam which later adopted those materials. The views include:
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−	~~#Believe in a supreme being and its emanation to whom obedience is advised.~~
−	~~#belief that Jesus the son of Mary is the supreme being's emanation and word and spirit.~~
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−	~~=656=~~
−	Uthman appointed Ali as his successor. The [[Ercolian Karaites]] went to war against the Noahite Gnostics & Al-Lahazim but the Noahite Gnostics & Al-Lahazim won. However, Muawiya converted to Byzantine Christianity rather than accept Paulician rule.
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−	~~=660=~~
−	The Noahite Gnostics ruled until 660 when they were overthrown by the [[Ercolian Karaites]] again. The terms of the peace treaty promised that the Noahite Gnostics & Al-Lahazim Candidate (Hussein) would rule following Muawiya.
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−	~~=680=~~
−	~~The [[Ercolian Karaites]] did not keep their promise and killed the Noahite Gnostics & Al-Lahazim Candidate. Hence the Al-Lahazim established ibn Al-Zubayir as their ruler.~~
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−	~~The Noahite Gnostics fled first to Armenia then Thrace.~~
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−	~~The 6th Ecumenical Council appointed John Maron to lead them.~~
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−	~~The Noahite Gnostics still survive today as Maronites and the Tzigane of Biharia.~~
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−	~~=692=~~
−	~~Abdu Malik adopts the Mithraic Noahite style on his coins but then changes to Islam later in the year. This is the last trace we have of Mithraic Noahites.~~

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−	~~[[Image:Mithraic Noahite.png\|right]]~~
−	~~'''Noahite Mithraism''' appears to have been a thing a few different times throughout history. [[Cyrus the Great]] was a Mithraic Noahite. The Magi who honoured~~
−	the birth of Jesus as an Herodian Prince appear to have been Mithraists. They also seem to have had a significant influence in the area of the Greater Persian Empire between 651 and 692 AD, and the Paulicians also appear to have been of the same Magian/Gnostic/Hanif persuasion.
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−	In the Roman Province of Tachkastan they followed some sort of Essene Idumeans from whom the Manicheans had seceded from under the influence of Marcionism and Mandaeism. William St. Clair Tisdall prove that they preserved many Gnostic folktales about Jesus Christ such as for example:
−	~~:The "History of the Nativity of Mary and the Saviour's Infancy"~~
−	~~:"The Nativity of Mary"~~
−	~~:"The Protevangelium of James the less"~~
−	~~:The Arabic "Gospel of the Infancy~~
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	=The Gentile Gnostic Question=		=The Gentile Gnostic Question=
	Gentile Gnosticism ([[Christian Gnosticism]]) like that of the Marcionites, Valentinians, Mandaeans, and Manicheans presents a complex problem. A certain amount of Jewish Kabbalah found its way into 2nd century Christianity which completed what it didn't know in the most anti-Semitic ways because they lacked understanding concerning the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil and dumbed it down into the Tree of Gnosis. Everything else followed on from that one simple mistake.		Gentile Gnosticism ([[Christian Gnosticism]]) like that of the Marcionites, Valentinians, Mandaeans, and Manicheans presents a complex problem. A certain amount of Jewish Kabbalah found its way into 2nd century Christianity which completed what it didn't know in the most anti-Semitic ways because they lacked understanding concerning the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil and dumbed it down into the Tree of Gnosis. Everything else followed on from that one simple mistake.

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 [[Image:Mithraic Noahite.png|right]]
-'''Noahite Mithraism''' appears to have been a thing a few different times throughout history. Cyrus the Great was a Mithraic Noahite. The Magi who honoured
+'''Noahite Mithraism''' appears to have been a thing a few different times throughout history. [[Cyrus the Great]] was a Mithraic Noahite. The Magi who honoured
 the birth of Jesus as an Herodian Prince appear to have been Mithraists. They also seem to have had a significant influence in the area of the Greater Persian Empire between 651 and 692 AD, and the Paulicians also appear to have been of the same Magian/Gnostic/Hanif persuasion.

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 [[Image:Mithraic Noahite.png|right]]
 '''Noahite Mithraism''' appears to have been a thing a few different times throughout history. Cyrus the Great was a Mithraic Noahite. The Magi who honoured
-the birth of Jesus as an Herodian Prince may have been Mithraists. The Paulicians appear to have been of the same Magian/Gnostic/Hanif persuasion. They also seem to have had a significant influence in the area of the Greater Persian Empire between 651 and 692 AD.
+the birth of Jesus as an Herodian Prince appear to have been Mithraists. They also seem to have had a significant influence in the area of the Greater Persian Empire between 651 and 692 AD, and the Paulicians also appear to have been of the same Magian/Gnostic/Hanif persuasion.
 In the Roman Province of Tachkastan they followed some sort of Essene Idumeans from whom the Manicheans had seceded from under the influence of Marcionism and Mandaeism. William St. Clair Tisdall prove that they preserved many Gnostic folktales about Jesus Christ such as for example:

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 [[Image:Mithraic Noahite.png|right]]
-'''Gnostic Noahites''', '''Sabian Hanifs''' or '''Hanif Sabians''' or '''Paulicians''' OR '''MITHREAN NOAHITES''' in the Roman Province of Tachkastan followed the Essene Jews from whom the Manicheans had seceded from them under the influence of Marcionism and Mandaeism. William St. Clair Tisdall prove that they preserved many Gnostic folktales about Jesus Christ such as for example:
+'''Noahite Mithraism''' appears to have been a thing a few different times throughout history. Cyrus the Great was a Mithraic Noahite. The Magi who honoured
 :The "History of the Nativity of Mary and the Saviour's Infancy"
 :"The Nativity of Mary"

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 #Believe in a supreme being and its emanation to whom obedience is advised.
-#belief that Jesus the son of Mary is the supreme being's emanation.
+#belief that Jesus the son of Mary is the supreme being's emanation and word and spirit.
 =656=

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	The Noahite Gnostics still survive today as Maronites and the Tzigane of Biharia.		The Noahite Gnostics still survive today as Maronites and the Tzigane of Biharia.
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		+	=692=
		+	Abdu Malik adopts the Mithraic Noahite style on his coins but then changes to Islam later in the year. This is the last trace we have of Mithraic Noahites.

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 The Gnostic Noahites felt very hurt that the reasoning behind these doctrines were turned inside out by the Caliphs and not very wowed by Uthman's Quran which did not do justice to Gnostic Noahite beliefs. Hence many became Maronites while others became Pavlikeni.
-=610=
+=634=
-After defeating the Romans in 610, the [[Ercolian Karaites]] and their [[Hagarim]] who had settled in [https://goo.gl/maps/dMAJG1ohZ7baeW3z8 Mamuca] did not allow the Noahite Gnostics access to [[Al-Masjid Al-Haram]] in Jerusalem.
+Thomas the Presbyter said that followers of MHMT attacked Romans near Gaza at this time. We assume this was part of the on-going Byzantine-Persian wars over the Holy Land.
-A [[Quraysh]] called Father Kozim ibn Ishmael converted from Nasrani to Noahite Gnostic and began his studies under Gabriel in the monastic Cells of Hira. He was soon promoted to Mahmud status. But ultimately, the Gnostic Noahites will not all be happy with what he does with Noahite Gnosis.
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-Gabriel was inspired to compose a lot of Gnostic Poetry and Prose in this year.
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-=620s=
+#Believe in a supreme being and its emanation to whom obedience is advised.
-'''Gabriel of the Noahite Gnostics''' came from Heraclius announcing the decree from on high to unite in religion. They were supported by various Pahlavi families. The [[Ercolian Karaites]] thought they could use this to their advantage and went from Edessa to Tachkastan where their Ma'amad, [[Mehmet]], Muhmad, Mahmud established an alliance with the Noahite Gnostics in 622.
+#belief that Jesus the son of Mary is the supreme being's emanation.
 =656=