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פטר חמור moved page Petter Chamor to שמעון כיפה without leaving a redirect

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	Although antisemitic propaganda twisted the meaning in translation, the Sefer Hasidim no.191 makes clear that while admitting he was a Tzadik it is necessary to call any tzadik by something euphemistic if pagans take that tzadik as a deity as they do in the case of Shimon Kipah who thus should be referred to only as a Peter Chamur.		Although antisemitic propaganda twisted the meaning in translation, the Sefer Hasidim no.191 makes clear that while admitting he was a Tzadik it is necessary to call any tzadik by something euphemistic if pagans take that tzadik as a deity as they do in the case of Shimon Kipah who thus should be referred to only as a Peter Chamur.
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−	~~The word פטר is also related to another term in halacha: Patur (פטור) which means "exempt" of liability to punishment though an action is forbidden.~~

	Pavlus came from the school of [[Shimeon Ben Shetach]] with whom its story is sometimes confused.		Pavlus came from the school of [[Shimeon Ben Shetach]] with whom its story is sometimes confused.

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 He appears to have inspired Simon Stylites (c.426CE) who was instrumental in establishing the Miaphysite Church.
-Although antisemitic propaganda twisted the meaning in translation, the Sefer Hasidim no.191 makes clear that while admitting he was a Tzadik it is necessary to call any tzadik by something disparaging if pagans take that tzadik as a deity as they do in the case of Shimon Kipah who thus should be referred to only as a Peter Chamur.
+Although antisemitic propaganda twisted the meaning in translation, the Sefer Hasidim no.191 makes clear that while admitting he was a Tzadik it is necessary to call any tzadik by something euphemistic if pagans take that tzadik as a deity as they do in the case of Shimon Kipah who thus should be referred to only as a Peter Chamur.
 The word פטר is also related to another term in halacha: Patur (פטור) which means "exempt" of liability to punishment though an action is forbidden.

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 He appears to have inspired Simon Stylites (c.426CE) who was instrumental in establishing the Miaphysite Church.
-Although antisemitic propaganda twisted the meaning in translation, the Sefer Hasidim no.191 makes clear that while admitting he was a Tzadik says it is necessary to call any tzadik by something disparaging if pagans take that tzadik as a deity as they do in the case of Shimon Kipah who thus should be called Peter Chamur.
+Although antisemitic propaganda twisted the meaning in translation, the Sefer Hasidim no.191 makes clear that while admitting he was a Tzadik it is necessary to call any tzadik by something disparaging if pagans take that tzadik as a deity as they do in the case of Shimon Kipah who thus should be referred to only as a Peter Chamur.
 The word פטר is also related to another term in halacha: Patur (פטור) which means "exempt" of liability to punishment though an action is forbidden.

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 '''Shimeon Cippah''' ('''שמעון כיפה''' rare mis-spelling '''שמעון כיפר''') also known as '''Shimeon Haver''' ('''שִׁמְעוֹן הֶחָבֵר''') was a Jewish Tzadik and Christian Saint mentioned in the Teliya and known of from [[Judah ben Samuel of Regensburg|Judah He-Hasid]]'s [https://www.sefaria.org/Sefer_Chasidim.191?lang=bi Sefer Hasidim 191] as a '''Peter Chamor''' ('''פטר חמור''').
-He appears to have inspired the Nabal Simon Stylites (c.426CE) who was instrumental in establishing the Miaphysite Church.
+He appears to have inspired Simon Stylites (c.426CE) who was instrumental in establishing the Miaphysite Church.
 Although antisemitic propaganda twisted the meaning in translation, the Sefer Hasidim no.191 makes clear that while admitting he was a Tzadik says it is necessary to call any tzadik by something disparaging if pagans take that tzadik as a deity as they do in the case of Shimon Kipah who thus should be called Peter Chamur.

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−	'''Shimeon Cippah''' ('''שמעון כיפה''' rare mis-spelling '''שמעון כיפר''') also known as '''Shimeon Haver''' ('''שִׁמְעוֹן הֶחָבֵר''') was a Jewish Tzadik and Christian Saint mentioned in the Teliya and known of from [[Judah ben Samuel of Regensburg\|Judah He-Hasid]]'s [https://www.sefaria.org/Sefer_Chasidim.191?lang=bi Sefer Hasidim 191] as '''Peter Chamor''' ('''פטר חמור''').	+	'''Shimeon Cippah''' ('''שמעון כיפה''' rare mis-spelling '''שמעון כיפר''') also known as '''Shimeon Haver''' ('''שִׁמְעוֹן הֶחָבֵר''') was a Jewish Tzadik and Christian Saint mentioned in the Teliya and known of from [[Judah ben Samuel of Regensburg\|Judah He-Hasid]]'s [https://www.sefaria.org/Sefer_Chasidim.191?lang=bi Sefer Hasidim 191] as a '''Peter Chamor''' ('''פטר חמור''').

	He appears to have inspired the Nabal Simon Stylites (c.426CE) who was instrumental in establishing the Miaphysite Church.		He appears to have inspired the Nabal Simon Stylites (c.426CE) who was instrumental in establishing the Miaphysite Church.

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 He appears to have inspired the Nabal Simon Stylites (c.426CE) who was instrumental in establishing the Miaphysite Church. A confusion between Nabal Simon (Stylites) and a '''Peter Chamor''' is referred to by Rabbeinu Simcha (a student of Rashi) who warned:
 רבינו שמחה, תלמידו של רש"י, מביא את דבריו בחיבורו – "מחזור ויטרי"(מחזור ויטרי, שם, עמ' 282, והערה ה.), ובלשונו:
 :"ויש שאומרים על אותו [[נבל שמעון]] פטר חמור שהיא טעות של רומה יסדו אותה תפילה [נשמת]. ושאר תפילות כשהיה על הסלע. וחס ושלום שלא תהיה זאת בישראל. וכל האומר דבר זה, כשיבנה בית המקדש יביא חטאת שמנה".
-"And some say about that, a Nabal Simon (Stylites) IS a Peter Hamor -which is a mistake of Rome- who established that prayer [Neshmat] and other prayers when he was on the rock. But peace and blessings that such will not be (said) in Israel. And whoever says this, when the Temple is built, he will bring a fat offering."
+"And some say about that, a Nabal Simon (Stylites) IS a Peter Hamor -which is a mistake of Rome- who established that prayer [Neshmat] and other prayers when he was on the rock. But Chas Veshalom that such will not be (said) in Israel. And whoever says this, when the Temple is built, he will bring a fat offering."
 It seems that "Petter Chamor" is actually an office which has been held by several people called Simon since [[Simon Kefa]]. It is therefore sometimes difficult to identify when the term Petter Chamor refers to Simon Cippah or to [[Simon Peter]] and [[Simon Kalpus]] and [[Shimon Ben Kipa]].

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 '''Shimeon Cippah''' ('''שמעון כיפה''' rare mis-spelling '''שמעון כיפר''') also known as '''Shimeon Haver''' ('''שִׁמְעוֹן הֶחָבֵר''') was a Jewish Tzadik and Christian Saint mentioned in the Teliya and known of from [[Judah ben Samuel of Regensburg|Judah He-Hasid]]'s [https://www.sefaria.org/Sefer_Chasidim.191?lang=bi Sefer Hasidim 191] as '''Peter Chamor''' ('''פטר חמור''').
-He appears to have inspired the Nabal Simon Stylites (c.426CE) who was instrumental in establishing the Miaphysite Church and a confusion between Nabal Simon (Stylites) and a '''Peter Chamor''' is referred to by Rabbeinu Simcha (a student of Rashi) who warned:
+He appears to have inspired the Nabal Simon Stylites (c.426CE) who was instrumental in establishing the Miaphysite Church. A confusion between Nabal Simon (Stylites) and a '''Peter Chamor''' is referred to by Rabbeinu Simcha (a student of Rashi) who warned:
 :"Vechas Veshalom let it not be so in Israel" to anyone who says of him this "Abomination of Rome" and continues that anyone "who says so will have to bring a fat offering when Moshiach comes.”

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	The word פטר is also related to another term in halacha: Patur (פטור) which means "exempt" of liability to punishment though an action is forbidden.		The word פטר is also related to another term in halacha: Patur (פטור) which means "exempt" of liability to punishment though an action is forbidden.
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		+	Pavlus came from the school of [[Shimeon Ben Shetach]] with whom its story is sometimes confused.

	==Origins of Lakhmid==		==Origins of Lakhmid==